I have a Startech brand PCI add-in card to get some extra SATA ports on my old Biostar MCP 6PB M2+ board.
In Disk Manager an Hitachi drive attached to the card shows up as a SCSI device.
However my backup software doesn't see it (old copy of Norton Ghost on CD) and the POST operations do not show it in the BIOS. Win7 reports that no driver updates are needed for the Hitachi on the Startech card.
It's very confusing. A new motherboard is due for me but this problem solved would extend the use of the Biostar. Why would the Win7 see the device but nothing else?
I Can't Install a sata hard disk with a PCI sata controller card.?
My mb is MSI KT4V with AMD athlon 1800.My bios is AMI.
There is no option in my mb for a sata hard disk so i brought the sata pci cotroller card.
In post it shows the raid in my pci slot but cant detect my hard disk. It is a Segate 7200 rpm 160 gb hard disk.My sata pci controller card come with a driver cd but i cant install its driver in dos mode. and i think its for the windows version.
How can i install the single sata drive in my comp.
please help me...
Probably some fakeraid BS..
You have to enter the RAID BIOS and configure the drive as a RAID0 array or something similar. If it doesn't detect the drive in the RAID BIOS either, look over all your cables. Make sure you have power to the hard drive and suchlike.
I'm just wondering... I'm setting up a server and planning on having either a RAID0 or a RAID5 array of SCSI disks.
I could potentially use a SCSI RAID1+0 setup for my backup needs, but I've been thinking along different lines. My system drive/array will be around 300 to 450GB in SCSI, and I'm planning on having a large capacity sata disk or two in RAID1 for data...
... while I know I probably can't use the same controllers, is there any cheap and easy way by which I could have the system drive (scsi striped array) mirrored to a dedicated sata drive for backup purposes, such that if I lose the whole striped array at some point, I'll still have a backup of the lost data with which to build a new array to replace it with?
The good thing about Raid 5 is if one disk starts to die it gives you warning and time to pull it out and rebuild it without missing a lick. If the controller goes you can replace it and your drives will still be fine.
Now if you want to back up your entire network to a SATA array then i would advise investigating Data Protection Manager 2010 (DPM 2010). Full backup to a disk array every day and incremementals every 15 minutes, then a tape backup to take to the bank on the weekend.
hi my new sata hard drive is showing as a scsi in win7
and it seems to be running slow and making alot of accessing data noises
how can i fix this back to sata
With some hard disk controllers it is normal for it to show up as a SCSI disk - particularly if the disk controller is running in AHCI mode, which is preferrable since it allows features such as NCQ. One thing you may want to check is: locate the drive itself under "Disk Drives" in device manager and go into the properties. Select the "Policies" tab and view what is set. For better performance you will want it set to "Better Performance" with both of the boxes checked. Though if you lose power you may run into minor file corruption issues - I personally have not had issues with this. If you disable those check-boxes performance can decrease significantly.
Hello, this is my first post here. I have an HP Workstation x4000 I use at work for Designing CAD Models. This is an old computer. My problem is that I am out of room on the Hard Drive. It is a 58 GB SCSI,68pin HP Hard Drive. My IT support guy purchased me a 1GB SATA Drive,Raid Card,enough Memory to fill the MEC Card, and Norton Ghost to flash over the new Drive. My problem is, the Card he bought will not fit into the Mobo. The ribbon in the Computer has an empty plug and a power plug,but they are for a 68 pin SCSI Hard Drive. Is there a cable made that I can use to simply plug the SATA Hard drive into the 68 pin ribbon,or do I need a card? Do they make such a thing? My boss is extremely frugal and doesn't want to hear that the best thing would be to replace the 12 year old computer! Thanks for any help you guys can give me
SCSI vs SATA vs EIDE
What are the differences between all of these?
I'll probably not use SCSI, but I was looking at the WD raptor 10K rpm hard drive (SATA). Do you need a special motherboard or certain controller to run this hard drive? And do you need a special CABLE for it? I have tons of 80pin IDE cables, but those wouldn't work?
Nope won't work. Different drives, cables, controllers. Some motherboards now come with the SATA interface built in. For more information check this site out. Its an OLD report on SATAs. Hard drives are now available for SATA use.
I just got my hands on a Compaq 36.4 gb hard drive (10k RPM). It has an scsi port connector but I don't know how to connect it to my ECS board which is fairly new (one of those SLI-status boards). I might need a converter of some sort. The hard drive model is: BD0366459B , my board model is ECS 945-p ( http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/mainboard/ecs-945p-a-i945p.html ) .
Thanks ahead of time.
According to this site
Product Name BD0366459B
CD-ROM Drive Compaq CRD-8402B
Hard Disk Drive Compaq BD0366459B; 9.09 GB; Firmware 3B12; Wide Ultra3SCSI
BD0366459B; 145. GB; 291. GB; Firmware B005; Wide Ultra3SCSI
Host Bus Adapter Compaq Integrated Dual-Channel Wide-Ultra SCSI-3 ControllerClick to expand...
(1) a SCSI-3 controller to be installed into the mobo
(2) a Wide Ultra3SCSI cable
You may get the hard disk cheap but could get rip off by the hardware needed to go with SCSI equipment.
The Sata can be viewed as a poor man's SCSI but at least your mobo support 4 units out of the box. I doubt if a SCSI can be cheaper than Sata nowadays which is being retailed at GBP 0.128 per Gb. Thus the 36.4Gb unit would cost no more than GBP 4.65 in UK which, if being a Sata disk, is equivalent to approximately one imperial gallon of petrol. That amount of money will not be able to buy either one the above two attachments required to run the unit.
Technically if you run a Sata Raid 0 to half the access time it should beat the SCSI disk performance hand down, I would have thought.
I have a Dell Tower Computer (Circa 2000-2002) that runs RIP software (Raster Image Processor) used to send graphics/image data to a machine that makes by way of laser imaging our plates or masters for our offset printing presses. Monday the hard drive failed. The Dell has Windows XP license decals on it but when booting up it display Windows 2000 NT. The computer has only 1 hard drive, a 68 pin SCSI drive and the cable to it connects to separate dual channel SCSI card which is in a slot on the motherboard. There is another SCSI card (single channel) in the slot next to it which has a cable that goes to the machine that this computer drives. The software that runs on this computer is proprietary software and I have a re-install disk for it being send via UPS Next Day Air as I type. I have an XP disk & license that I can install on what ever hard drive I can get to work here and the RIP software manufacturer said their software would work on XP. But I don't have a copy of Windows 2000 NT.
My question is that if I can't find this same hard drive locally, can I use an IDE or a SATA hard drive instead and still run the RIP software correctly? There is 2 IDE (primary & secondary) connectors directly on the motherboard. One is used for the CD rom drive, the other is unused. I am not certain but I don't believe the motherboard has a SATA connection. I have 2 good spare IDE hard drives.
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I have got two SCSI hard disk arrays running in my server, one is a 3-disks array on RAID-5 and the other one is a 1-disk unRAIDed.
Both arrays are presently holding data.
I want to install another 2 SCSI disks on the second array so that I can RAID these 2 together with the existing 1 on a RAID 5.
Can someone please kindly give me a walkthrough how to do it, because apart from changing hard disks on a PC, I have never done anything with SCSI hard disks before.
Is there any issue with data migration?
Do I have to temporarily transfer the data in the disk to another storage, install the 2 new disks, RAID the three together, then transfer back the data?
Or can I just simply plug in the two new disks, and RAID the three together, without having to worry about the data contained?
Ascan be seen I am in very very desperate need for help here.
So from the time the new disks arrive, what do I have to do?
Thanks so much. Any input is very much welcome and appreciated.
I am not sure I completely understand what you want to do. I think you want to install two new drives onto a scsi card and then create a raid array on those two disks.
As long as the scsi controller you are connecting these to supports raid, it should be no problem. Shut down and connect your drive to the controller. The one disk connected now will have the terminator jumper / plug installed on it. This needs to go on the last device in the chain. Now restart and enter the bios for the controller you are setting up the raid array on. There are different key combos for different card mgf's so you need to know which key to hit. When in the raid bios, select the two disks you want to create the array and start the creation process.
I am assuming that the os is already installed on another device and that drivers for the raid card are already installed. Go to disk management and you will need to partition and format your array. You MAY need to restart after you partition the array. Format with ntfs and you are good to go.
The time has come for me to wipe the hard drive and re-install Windows 7 following a recent disastrous download that's effectively knocked out my Internet Explorer 11 and rendered Internet browsing difficult. My system has since become unstable and progressively slow and unfortunately, for some reason, I am unable to Restore to any previous installation. As I have loads of files I want to access, I've decided get a new Hard Disk and run the original H/drive (if possible) from a SATA drive Docking Station. So essentially, I would like to know if my Dell DXC061 will run and support a new Seagate 1Tb SATA3 7200rpm Barracuda. My BIOS is Ver. 2.4.0 dated 05/24/07. I have opened the CPU to see that the current drive connectors appear similar to those on the SATA Docking Station and think my old drive will fit it. However, it's now occurred to me that its possible the newSATA 3 drive may not be compatible with my BIOS or Motherboard. Any help or comments please? Incidentally I have most of my most useful files backed up on an external drive, so all, hopefully is not lost.
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is there anyone knows how to disable acoustic management in scsi
appreciate your help!
thanks in advance
This is a feature of some HDDs in order to make them quieter. Unfortunately, because they work by reducing the speed of the drive (according to load), they can make some systems run slow. There are utilities available to turn this feature on and off (where supported), but you will need to get these from the HDD manufacturer's website.
I suspect that my 640 GB hard disk (from 2008) is nearing the end of its life and would like to plan for a replacement.There does not appear to be much if any chance to replace such a SCSI disk any more.What is the best type of disk to replace it, and does it need a new controller?I run Vista (original OS) and Windows 7 (new) in a dual boot configuration.It has currently three volumes, a Vista C: drive (c.300 GB), a Windows 7 C: drive (c.300 GB) and the HP "FACTORY_IMAGE" drive 15 GBMore replies
During Boot sequence, PC displays error message "Smart Hard Disk Error" -- Hard Disk 1 (301". No problem is apparent ... P/C runs OK if option to continue is selected. How do I reset or eliminate the Smart Disk Test which appears to be erroneous. The diagnostics run OK with no errors or problems detected.More replies
I have a problem with my computer's hard drive. I have recently formatted, re-installed windows 98 (In some thread here), then re-partitioned into two drives and installed XP. I noticed that IO was missing 250mb on drive c:. I than repartitioned into one drive, and installed XP Home. That is my current setup.
Drive c:, is 3GB and when going into C:'s properties it says it has 196mb free. However When I select all files in C:, and view properties it displays that all files total to only 1.73GB. So why does c:'s properties display the wrong disk space.
Windows is reminding me that I have under 200mb on the windows drive (c. I have hidden files shown.
Could someone please help me fix this problem, thanks.
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Got some problem here,just recently bought SATA 3.0 hard disk(samsung)and i forgot if my motherboard support this hard disk,after checking it only supports 1.5 SATA.I visited samsung website on how to force my Hard disk to run at 1.5,
I'd follow what the site told me to do but no luck still got the same problem ("Hardware Initiate failed,Please check device) (The BIOS does not be installed)
Anyone got an idea how to fix this,might be some BIOS set-up?Kindly walk me through,Im still using my trusted desktop Motherboard Asrock p4v8+ BIOS P1.50.Badly need help
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windows98 is already on my 13gb ide drive, but i have a new 9gb scsi drive which is really fast 80mb/sec,
I would like to install only windows for now so machine boots faster, can i do this and still have other files on existing slower 13gb hdd i.e. games, txt files and pics?
I have managed to make ide drive as slave but i dont know how to go abouts installing win98 on scsi, as machine keeps booting to windows, from the slave drive. And when i attempt to install win98 it tries to put it on the ide drive which alwready has it on.
Do i need to disconnect the power supply to the ide hdd?
Does scsi drives have master/slave jumper setting like the ide?
My new hdd is MAG3091LC on this page
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Have a bare bones system (soltek) and bought a number of bits (cpu, memory etc.) for it; the hard drive is a SATA type, but the connection on the mother board is IDE, is there any way I can connect the hard drive to the mother board? Hopefully I can just get a cable from the mother board (ide connection) to my SATA hard drive, is this possible or do you need to get an IDE hard drive?
The short answer NO. the long answer is you need a SATA controller to use that hard drive.
Adaptec and a few others make them:
I Have SATA hard disk, when I checked the BIOS setup I found it had the "IDE sixth Master". Is there any way to make it "IDE Primary Master" or it never be "Primary Master".
while your in the bios looking at the sata ide settings, can you just hit enter on the sixth master option, and then select primary master?? thats just off the fly...
I'm need a little help setting up my hard disks. I have a Maxtor 320g SATAII hard disk as my main disk running vista on a ASUS AM2 mobo and I'd like to add my two IDE hard disk, 1 a 160g Seagate and a 120g Maxtor. I've also got a DVD writer set as secondary master.
I want to add the two other hard disks but when I connect them its only finding one.
I've got the 160g set as a slave which it finds both in the bios and through my computer but it doesn't find the 120g one which is set as master.
Is that the right way to do it or is there something else I need to do?
go to start> run and type in diskmgmt.msc
See if you can see your two other drives there. You may need to go and format them to make it visible on "My computer"
I thing I have a problem with my sata drive.
Windows 7 is working ok, and is booting up from the sata drive. The speed is only around 50 MB/s. Should it be more than this ?
Capacity 160 GB
Buffer 8 MB
Speed 7200 RPM
MB settings it's on SATA/AHCI because I also have a ata HDD 80 GB.
And why do I have the safe remove device in the bottom right corner ?
Can someone please explain ?
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Well, My SATA connection keeps getting unplugged from the hard disk side, and thus it keeps disconnecting while i am working on the computer, I sort of Surrounded the Plug with a rubber band so that it would stick, Well Since this is temporary Anyone Knows a better Connection or an extension that could help?
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I have a seagate baracuda 500 gb hard drive and it is giving me a headache installing in on my pc. Short story I have a pc with asus p5q motherboard, 2 gb ram ddr 3, and an ide hdd of 100 gb. I previously had the 500 gb sata installed but I had it taken uout of the pc for a while. Connecting the hard disk will result in one out of several fails : 1. I tried installing win 7 with both hdd connected. At the install screen i am only able to see the ide disk. I can see the sata hdd in bios, with both configurations for sata ( as ide or as ahci). 2. I tried connecting both of them and explore the drive after loading windows. The issue here is that the sata hdd was divided into 3 partitions (100 and 350) and my win only sees the 100gb partition. Needless to say I cannot open it or format it (tried with win format and several format tools). 3. Tries with xp install. I can see the 2 partitions in the setup but i am unable to delete or install.
Forgot to mention that I dont have a dvd wr and am using usb windows installers only. Also I tried using the ASUS EZ flash 2 from bios and it allows me to see the old folders on the hdd. Sata cable is new. I have 6 sata ports and I tried all of them.
What else can I do to fix this, and use the sata drive(either with the ide or alone)
Thank you in advance
When installing any Windows OS, ONLY connect the HDD which will have the OS. Numerous issues can arise with other drives installed, most of them bad. Also, depending on the motherboard, install will only work on the SATA drive with the IDE drive disconnected.
If Windows can't alter the HDD, you can try use the drive manufacturers disk tools.
recently, I have some problems with a new hard disk I bought (SATA). I thought that my mobo had a sata controller but it did not. So, I bought a new PCI card and I connected my hard disk to it. Everything was fine but after a week some errors appeared and when my PC started it showed that it could not recognize the hard disk.
Then I thought it might be the controller and I replaced it with another one (different brand). Again things were fine for 2-3 weeks when sometime - again - during startup, my PC could not recognize the hard disk (showing the same errors).
The status now is that sometimes it recognizes the hard disk and sometimes not. This is very annoying !
Do you have any ideas what might be wrong ? Is it possible the second PCI SATA controller card being defective ?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
Perhaps its your IDE Cable, Check to see that its plugged in securely, (That the cables are out of the way, and not getting hot or stuff).
I've had some problems installing a new SATA HDD to my computer.
Actually i've 2 Maxtor 80 GB ATA133 on the primary ATA channel, and CD-ROM / DVD on the secondary ATA channel.
My motherboard is quite old, and doesn't have a built-in SATA controller. I've bought a PCI SATA controller with Silicon Image 3112 chipset, and a Maxtor 200 GB SATA HDD (6B200M0).
I've installed the controller and the HDD, but the system freezes just after displaying the SATA controller information ("press ctrl+s to enter RAID setup utility"). After that, i see black screen with 4 characters on the top left corner, ant the HDD led always on.
The only way to let it work properly is to unmount one of the two ATA HDD (the only one I can remove, because the other one is the boot HDD). If I do that, everything goes well, and winXP recognizes the controller and the HDD (189 GB).
What should I do to let it work with all the three HDD?
All answers will be appreciated! Thanks!!
Intel P4 2.4 GHz
Motherboard Asus P4PE rev 1.03 (bios 1007 - the last one)
RAM 1 GB DDR333
Video: Matrox Parhelia 128 MB AGP
HDD: 2 x Maxtor 80 GB ATA133 (6Y080L0) on the primary ATA channel
DVD+-RW Pioneer (master on the secondary ATA channel)
DVD Asus (slave on the secondary ATA channel)
SATA PCI Controller Sunix SATA2000 with Silicon Image 3112 chipset
Win XP Pro SP2
SATA and IDE combinations often don't work very well. I had it and had to choose one or the other with my MSI Motherboard. SATA usually wants to default as the primary drive, and you can get conflicts within Windows. I suggest either SATA or IDE only.
I currently run several WD20EARX and WD20EARS drives (Sata 3 and Sata 2 respectively). Sadly the sata 3 drives perform worse than the sata 2 drives.
I'm looking to replace 4 of my drives. I like the reviews and performance of the Seagate ST2000DM001 drives, however, they are a little greedy with power consumption and only have a 1 year warranty.
Does anyone know of a good 2TB drive that is low power, has ratings equal to or better than the ST2000DM001, but with a minimum of 3 years warranty.
These drives are going to get quite a bit of use. Mostly used for media storage (such as movie backups and TV recordings).
I'd like to keep the price to AUD $600 if I could, but can go a litle higher if I must
I'd be willing to run 3x 3TB drives in place of 4x 2TB drives, as long as my Z68X-UD3R BIOS will support it. I would still boot from one of the 2TB SATA II drives.
Any advice is greatly appreciated
Edit: NCQ support would be preferable.
WD RE4-GP, WD AV-GP, and WD Caviar Green are the 3 WD energy saving flavors with the RE being the enterprise series. The AV-GPs use IntelliPower for IntelliPark and IntelliSeek.9 more replies
My desktop at home cannot be used anymore.
When I open the computer, the motherboard boots alright but then it displays this message
If I press F1, it displays the option of starting windows in Safe mode or normally. But either one you choose would make the computer go back to starting the computer again.
looks like your harddrive is bad............ replace harddrive and you will have to reinstall windows
I have a new PC with an Intel Dual Core processor an ASUS motherboard and with 3 nVidia hard disks (2 of which I want as RAID drives). I am trying to install Windows on it but whenever it tries to install, it says it cannot find any hard disks yet in the DEL setup thing it says that they are connected and everything.
I have tried doing the put some HD drivers on a floppy and then pressing F6 and all that but it still can't find them.
Any help please...? Thanks.
Well, you are on the right track as you'll need a floppy for the F6 option for the initial install to recognize and configure your SATA controller and thus see your drives.
What we really need is the precise model number of your motherboard. Do you have a receipt or can you see it silk-screened on the motherboard itself? ASUS motherboards usually have the model-number in big, white lettering near the expansion slots or by the CPU socket.
From here, we can better instruct you on how to make a properly functioning F6 driver floppy for your SATA controller.
Alternatively, most ASUS motherboards also ship with a cd. You can try booting off that cd to see if it present a menu for making a boot floppy image.
I tried to put 2x SATA hard drives from my broken HP pavilion dv7 laptop( one is blank(D and other has windows 7 ultimate(C on it) to desktop pc(one and only HDD has xp professional on it) and one problem occured. Both of SATA disks are recognised but I could not acces Documents(c : ) nor desktop folders(c : )with my xp professional desktop PC. Is there any way for me to save those datas? I know that only solution to make all of my HDD functional is reinstaling windows on (C : ), but that will vanquish all the data from Documents and desktop.
I know that possible solution is to find very similiar laptop to pavilion dv7 and put HDD inside of it. Is there any other options?
Thanks in advance ,
The reason you cannot access the files from the old machine is that they are not "owned" by you and may even be password protected. You will need admin access and take ownership of the folders, if they're not protected.
i m Basically a Technician
Today i m Facing one problem in Windows 7
System is Acer Aspire T6524 (I search on Internet and that is Acer Emachine)
Windows XP is running Fine
i m trying to install Windows 7 on this Desktop System
i have IDE DVD Rom
and Sata Seagate Harddisk, 4 check also new WD hard disk
i try alot of time to install but it always says on Drives Page.
No Driver were found. Click Load Driver to Provide a mass storage driver for installation
i tried WD Hard disk to check but Same error
i check its BIOS Setup. there is no configration About AHCI and IDE
i Reset its CMOS.
i Change its Ram
i change its Power Supply
But the error is Same No Hard Disk.
I Hope i Will Find Solution from here
Thanks in Advance
Sorry 4 mine Bad English
You'll need to preformat the Win7 partition using a 3rd party partitioning manager like Free Partition Wizard CD.
Then try running the Win7 installer from the XP desktop, directing the Custom install to the 2nd partition.
This may solve the driver problem. If not, locate the SATA contoller driver for your model and put it in the Win7 installer on the link at bottom left of the Custom drive maps screen.
I have a brand new Foxconn A7GM-S 2.0 motherboad which seems to be unable to recognize my two SATA hard disks. I have ensured that the power connectors and SATA cables are snug, and have tried each pair of the six SATA slots on the motherboard. I also don't hear either hard disk powering up upon boot.
This board is a replacement for my older motherboard, which died rather suddenly. Both hard disks were connected to the old motherboard at the time of its failure, which leads me to wonder if the disks are damaged beyond repair. Do motherboard failures generally affect connected hard disks? Or is my new motherboard defective?
CPU = AMD Athlon 64 X2 5050e
Motherboard = Foxconn A7GM-S 2.0 (BIOS version 8.00.14)
RAM = 2 x 2 GB GSkill DDR2-6400
HDD1 = Seagate Barracuda (160 GB)
HDD2 = Western Digital Caviar (80 GB)
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Bought this SATA hard disk(250GB) a few weeks ago and fixed my computer. I am using Gigabyte K8VT800M as my mother board.
I see a exclamation mark on on the icon of "VIA SATA RAID CONTROLLER" in my device manager. It is not a question mark behind, so I guess the drivers are installed.
The hard disk is running.
However, I can't seem to detect the SATA hard disk(Can't find it in disk management), is it because my motherboard doesn't support SATA II?
It says here: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/FAQ_Model.aspx?FAQID=1724&ProductID=1711&ClassValue=
If I have to change the jumpers settings, how do I do it?
You only need to install the raid controller drivers if you're going to set up a raid array.
hi i am seeking your help as a last alternative to send my computer to a technician as i really cannot figure out what is going on.
i m having a problem with my sata hard disk with mobo asus k8v-x. it was working a few days ago until the other pc hard disk corrupted and in order to verify that it is a corrupted hd, i connected it to the asus pc with 2 hard disk on a sata configurations with no jumpers. evidence showed me that it as a corrupted hard disk as the same problem occured and somehow afterwards the pc let me format the corrupted hd, which beforehand was showing the fatal blue screen error inviting me run scan disk.
the real problem comes now. the hd is recognized in the bios but it wont boot giving me the error "insert a bootable device" and a fresh copy of windows won't do either. i downloaded the raid drivers but it showed me an error ( pressing f6 in setup beforehand) to install them something line 1122 or something like that.
Did i need to create an array to coonect both?
10x in advance
Corrupted hard drives are usually also broken hard drives.
Reinstall the suspected bad drive in the old computer but note the make/model and serial number of the drive as you do this. You will need a second computer to do the next step.
Go to the drive manufacturers website and download their hard drive checking software. You may have to burn this software to a CD or write it to a floppy. Now place the CD/floppy into the old computer with the corrupted disk and boot the machine. Enter the computers BIOS and change the first boot device to you CD/floppy whichever is appropriate and allow the computer to boot into the software. Run the tests. Chances are your hard drive will come back as bad.
hi im ramkrishna
i need to install xp on my system...
but some error massege is comeing...
if any changes in bios settings........
please needfull meeeeeee
slipsteam the required drivers into the xp disk
then use the slipstreamed disk for the install
Recently my 320GB Seagate Hard Disk faced a problem and had to be replaced.
Am running Win7 x64 on my new 1TB WD Hard Disk. However, there was some important and slightly sensitive data that I still want to recover from my old Sata Hard Disk.
Chronology of events before replacement:
Mid-July: Hard Disk was working fine. I had to go out of town for a month. PC was not being used during that period.
Aug 11- I returned home, but PC refused to boot. Even the BIOS screen or the name of the motherboard does not appear. Just a blank screen. After a couple of hours of replugging in all the hardware and power cables, the PC booted and worked normally.
Aug17- PC refused to boot, repeated the same procedure of unplugging the hardware etc but this time i noticed that one of the connectors of my hard disk appeared slightly chipped off at the edge (cant remember if its the power connector or the sata connector). PC worked normally after a couple of hours of playing around with the hardware.
Aug 18- PC was freezing, every mouse click was taking a couple of minutes to respond. I tried rebooting but the faced the same problem as the previous two times. Unplugged the HardDisk and used an old IDE hard disk to figure out if its indeed the hard disks problem. The old IDE hard disk worked.
I went and purchased a new SATA hard disk which works fine now, absolutely no issues.
But i wanted some of my data from the old disk, so I tried connecting the old Hard Disk back but cant get it to bo... Read more
Partition Wizard Bootable CD allows user to manage partition directly with partition manager bootable CD.
Free download Magic Partition Manager Software, partition magic alternative, free partition magic, partition magic Windows 7 and server partition software - Partition Wizard Online (last one "bootable CD"). Download it and burn it. Boot from DVD. Does it see the SATA-disk? Does it see all partitions?
I have a SATA hard drive in my desktop PC, which I am now getting rid of. I want to reuse the SATA drive with my new Mac Mini, and I think the only option is to use it in an external enclosure and attach it via the firewire interface.
Can anyone point me towards somewhere that will be able to supply me with the parts I need? I have tried one seller on eBay but he has been particularly vague on whether the caddy he supplies is supported!
Thanks for reading
You can use either FireWire or USB and it is a shame that FireWire 800 enclosures are so expensive ($60-75) as it would be twice as fast as USB or FireWire 400.
Here is an enclosure made to look like a Mac accessory for $35.00 http://www.adorama.com/MACGS350SUA....ping Site&utm_campaign=Other&utm_source=gbase
I have a problem. when trying to install XP I can't get the drivers to load from the CD it wants them In A: drive and that's too much information for a diskette, Can anyone help me out on this?
It depends on the motherboard but often the SATA/RAID drivers are not just copied directly from the CD to the floppy. Motherboard driver CDs often have drivers for different chipsets and different operating systems. In these cases a utility program on the CD is used so you can select the correct drivers which will fit on the floppy diskette. Directions on how to make the SATA driver floppy are usually in the motherboard manual.
It would be better if we knew what motherboard you have.
So I am not computer stupid, so I ran my rkill on my computer to stop what was on it so I could run my malwarebytes. I ran my malwarebytes and it found what was causing the issues. I removed and restarted my computer. Ran the malwarebytes again to see if it was really gone. Didn't find anything. Here is my problem. NOTHING IS BACK TO WHERE IT WAS.. My computer background is still all black. there is no programs under my start menu. I go to add and remove programs they are there. But why in the heck is my computer not where it is supposed to be. This is where I am stuck. how do I get it back to like it was, because what was on my computer infecting it is gone. ???? HELP!!!! Its like they are still hidden my programs that is..
My SATA HD is a Seagate Barracude 120gb NCQ, and my Motherboard is an Asus P4S800DE.
When I try and install XP it tells me that it did not detect a HD. So I tried copying the Sis Raid drivers onto a floppy then pressing F6 to install them during XP setup as was described in the Asus manual. Didn't work. Then I tried flashing my Bios to a newer version that apparantly solved any Sata detection problems. Still no luck.
Can anyone suggest anything?
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I returned from a 10 day vacation to find that when I started up my computer, it would not boot, giving an error of:
SATA Primary hard disk drive 0 failure
Press F1 to continue, F2 for setup utility
There is also a new clicking noise (hard drive, I presume?)
I found an old Ubuntu 9.10 CD I made a few years ago and was able to run Ubuntu from the CD.
In Ubuntu, under Places - Computer, I don't see my hard drive listed, which is disheartening. I do see a Ghost drive listed.
I'm trying to find a way to get some important files off of the hard drive.
Of note, about a week before I left for vacation, I got a malware infection (Windows Live Security Platinum) which I am pretty confident I had vanquished thanks to help from posts on this site. My computer was working normally for 4 consecutive days prior to leaving town, without any evidence of persistent malware infection.
Any advice as to how to access data from the apparently failing/failed hard drive?
BTW the clicking stopped a few minutes after loading Ubuntu.
Thanks in advance.
Does it make klunk klunk noise like someone is hitting metal again and again? In that case head is shot and it cannot be fixed by you. Take it to repair experts and they would charge you big money for extracting data from it.
If it is making small clicking noise, then the header is trying to read data but failing. Probable cause may be inadequate power coming from power supply or data cable is broken. Just attach it to another computer and check. It can also mean corrupt sectors.
I recently checked in the HP website is possible to upgrade hard drives. I would like to change my HP mini 1104 laptop for 1TB hard drive because the original one is practically full and I believe this is the best option. I tried to contact HP store parts sellers and they mention I need to check if the conexion is SATA or IDE. I have not idea and I am not intending to open the laptop as yet. I also tried HP store email and somebody wrote me this: HP Mini 1104 (ENERGY STAR) (A7K66UT), the PC supports the following hard drives: 320 GB, 5400 rpm, 9.5 and 7.0 mm 250 GB, 5400 rpm, 9.5 and 7.0mm This have confused me because I saw in amazon they have 1TB for my model and the photo says it is SATATSM 2.5 LAPTOP HARD DISK DRIVE FOR HP MINI 110-1000 110-1100 110-1200 110-3000 110-3100 210-1000 1104 1tbI have therefore 2 q... Read moreMore replies
in the start when i bought my computer my sata hard disk should easily installed windows xp ,but after sometime i wanna to increase the space in c drive tht's why i delete my hard disk and thn reallocate it ,and now windows xp does not installed in my computer,it shouldn't give me the blue screen........so help me to out that problem???///
is it set to be seen as ide in the bios,it may need a driver loaded with f6
vista has the drivers,xp does'nt
My SATA HD is a Seagate Barracude 120gb NCQ, and my Motherboard is an Asus P4S800DE.
When I try and install XP it tells me that it did not detect a HD. So I tried copying the Sis Raid drivers onto a floppy then pressing F6 to install them during XP setup as was described in the Asus manual. Didn't work. Then I tried flashing my Bios to a newer version that apparantly solved any Sata detection problems. Still no luck.
Can anyone suggest anything?
please can someone delete this thread?
I have a SATA 1TB Seagate Barracuda that has been acting wonky for a while now. I have been meaning to back up the data on it (which is ~700gb of music and videos) but never got around to it. I think now I may have waited too late.
The drive was bought brand new roughly ~18 months ago and has never been dropped or physically damaged. I take very good care of my hardware. Regular cleanings, maintenance, no damage, etc. Anyway, the drive started acting weird a while ago and was sometimes not coming up as a drive but more often than not the performance was terrible. I had to check cables a few times and tightened them in and everything would be ok for a bit but the performance issues would start up again. I mean terrible performance. Sometimes it would take me 60 secs or more to access the drive after double clicking it. After that initial start up the drive would run fine for a while. It seemed like almost when the drive went to sleep it had an issue waking up or starting up.
Well it finally stopped reading. It won't show up now no matter what I do. I swapped cables, SATA ports, etc. I tested it with my 500gb Seagate Barracuda. That one works fine and when I swap in the 1TB.. nothing. I think the drive may be finished. But as I said, there is no physical damage done to it and also it powers up. I can hear the disks spinning when I connect it. Windows is just not reading it. When I go into my Intel Rapid Storage it comes up as a SATA device (0gb) so something is being read, bu... Read more
Hi, my issues are two-fold.
After asking the guys at the shop who put my computer together to partition the hard drive, they must've forgotten.
I'm a full-time student heading toward a level 6 diploma in ICT, just started learning diskpart, etc. So it's good practice for me to make right what they didn't do.
Have read many forums trying to work out what to do because I can only shrink this Western Digital (WD5000AAKS) 500GB to half it's size (when what I really want is Windows 7 on C drive at only 50GB's).
Have tried a custom install but it asks me for SATA drivers which I cannot for the life of me find to download.
Any help is very much appreciated.
P.S: The second part of the problem is RAM related, should I fix that first before doing the fresh install, or? I purchased 4GB of RAM but right clicking computer properties shows Installed memory (RAM): 2.00 GB. Right-clicking on my-PC and choosing properties does show 2 yellow warnings with exclamation marks. The first one is PCI Simple Communications Controller but clicking the update driver part comes back with "Windows was unable to install your..." Windows could not find driver software for your device. It doesn't have any driver provider details (Unkown) so not sure how to go about fixing that?
And the second exclamation mark says Unkown Device (could that be the missing RAM?)
1. What kind of motherboard do you have? You'll have to go to their site and get the SATA/RAID drivers for your board.
2. 32 or 64 bit? 32 bit will only recognize up to 3.0 or 3.5 GB of RAM.
Recently bought Athlon64 3200+, Gigabyte K8NF-9 F11, 1GB RAM & 250GB SATA seagate hard disk. The problem here is that the BIOS (Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG) recognizes the harddisk to be only 130GB. Does Gigabyte K8NF-9 supports SATA 250GB hard disk or its's something I've done wrong? Pls help me out here. Thanks.
I had a similar problem, I thought it may apply to you.
When I first installed my XP Pro on my system with a new Seagate 250 GB HDD, XP created the C: drive at 125 GB, basically cutting the disc space in half. The rest was just unformatted.
Go to "disc management", and you might find your missing 120 GB in unformatted space.
When using one of those adapters that allows one to connect a PATA hard disk to board with only SATA connections, how much loss in data transfer rate is there?
The answer to your question is NONE ! You are relegated to the speed of the slowest device and in this case its the PATA Hard drive.
Well, here's the system specs to start off...
OS: Windows 7 professional x64 new OS
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 rev. 1.3
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K x4 Clocked at 5801 MHz
RAM: 16gb Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz
Harddisk: Seagate 1TB Serial ATA HD 7200/64MB/SATA-6G
VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W 80+ Bronze
Cooling: Corsair Air Series A50 Performance CPU Cooler
Network: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Audio: Realtek High Definition Audio
Hopefully that's enough.
Anyway I built this computer about 3 weeks ago and immediately had BSOD problems and graphics error kernel problems and whatnot. The graphics one I haven't seen in a little while now so hopefully I took care of that. Now I get random shut offs and blue screens. This is the newest error message: The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk1\DR2. So what I'm wondering is do I have the harddisk in the right Sata port? I thought I did according to the diagram, currently it's in SATA3_0/1 which is supposed to support Intel 6gb/s connectors...but maybe I should have it in the 3gb/s ones? Any help or ideas would be appreciated.
P.S. I've also ran memtest 86+ and there weren't any errors from that. Next I'm going to remove 3 of the mem sticks and run a test individually on each of those. Temps look great- under 30C for everything and I have ran a stress test for an hour and they stayed around 6... Read more
Experiment with different SATA ports and back off the over-clocking to 3.3GHz until you get the instability cured
My current system is running Win7 with SATA configured as AHCI.
I have an old desktop running WinXP but with SATA configured as IDE.
May I ask : Is it safe (in terms of data reliability) to plug the old WinVista HD in the current system for retrieving data files ?
Why do you mention the XP machine ?
Yes, it`s safe.
I was working on my pc the other day when it kind of locked up on me. No combo of key strokes could resolve it, so I was forced to do a hard reboot by pressing and holding the power button until it shut off. When I hit power to bring it back up, I saw the Dell splash screen with the options for F2 (setup) and F12(boot menu), then I heard 6 clicks, a short pause, then 2 more clicks. Shortly after I get the message:
SATA Primary hard disk drive 0 failure
Strike the F1 key to continue, F2 to run the setup utility
I press F1 and got a message saying that it could not find the boot sector.
I tried hooking this drive up as a slave with a known good hard drive as the master, but I hear the same clicking and it doesn't work. The drive is a Western Digital WD2500JS. I went to their website and downloaded a diagnostic ISO file and put it onto CD and loaded it into the drive and booted up. After a few minutes of no data on the screen it came up with this message:
"Unable to locate the License Agreement file, DLGLICE.txt!!!
Please make sure that the License Agreement file is located in the same path as DLGDIAG.EXE"
I put the disk into another computer and checked the contents of the disk. There are only 5 files:
The first file is not a typo, there is a 5 at the end of the filename. Maybe if I corrected this first before burning to disk? but how to do this and still have it be ... Read more
Download a Linux ISO (Ubuntu, Mint, Knoppix are all OK) and
create a live CD to boot with and transfer your files to an external source.
I have a Dell XPS 400 that is almost five years old. I am running Windows XP and it has been working well until recently. A few weeks ago I got an error message upon booting up about a Low Battery (I don't remember the exact message). I plugged it directly into the wall outlet and it hasn't given me trouble since. Yesterday there was a power outage in my room and when I tried to reboot I got the message:
"SATA Primary hard disk drive 0 failure, Strike the F1 key to continue, F2 to run the setup utility" when striking F1, I get the message: "No boot device available-strike F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup utility". I'm on my roommates computer and tried searching for answers but can't find much. I don't have disc to reinstall the OS and I don't want to lose the data on the hard drive. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
if it wasnt on a surge protector either the hard drive or motherboard got damaged.the best case scenerio is that its the hard drive.from what ive heard parts like the motherboard for xps dell computers are very expensive.there are programs that will recover whats on the hard drive. i wouldnt use the computer at all right now because if anything can be saved or salvaged it will get overwritten if u continue to try to use it.u may have to have someone look at the computer and see what damage was done and if it can even be fixed.hope this helps.
I have a XP system with nForce4 mainboard. The original hard disk is SATA made by Hitachi. I want to add a 2nd hard disk (IDE) to the system.
However, after I add it on, the XP can not boot up. BIOS can recognize it. But the XP does not. It does not matter how I set the 2nd disk to master or slaver.
Anybody has solutions, please give me an advise.
Have you checked your HDD order in the BIOS? On my ASUS K8N-E Deluxe, I have an IDE as my boot and a SATA for storage, which I had to tell my BIOS the HDD priority. You have to make sure that the BIOS points to the correct boot drive.2 more replies
Recently I decided to upgrade my hard disk storage space so I bought a Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 160GB SATA hard disk drive. Upon installing the drive I entered the Bios and went into "Intergrated Peripherals" section and set the BIOS to recognize P-ATA + S-ATA drives. When I reboot the new Maxtor drive shows up in Windows Explorer and functions normally. Also in Windows Explorer, my CD/DVD drive appears. However when I put a cd in the drive and click on the drive in Explorer I get the message to "Insert a disc into drive F:". The drive will not read the disc. When I went into Device Manager the CD/DVD drive shows up and says that it is functioning properly. Strange.....
So, I rebooted and reset the BIOS to the setup defaults (ie. P-ATA Drive Only) and when the computer boots up now the CD/DVD drive functions normally but the Maxtor drive is now not recognized. I understandObviously the Maxtor drive is not recognized because the BIOS is set for P-ATA drive only, but why when the BIOS is set for P-ATA + S-ATA is the CD/DVD drive not recognized?
My computer specs are as follows:
Processsor: Intel Pentium4 3.2C GHz (478pin/FSB800)
Motherboard: MSI i865G ATX
Bios: AMI Bios
RAM: DDR SDRAM 1GB (512MB x 2 / PC3200)
Video:nVidia GeForce FX5700 128MB AGP
Sound: CREATIVE SoundBlaster Audigy2ZS Platinum Pro
Hard Disk1:160GB Ultra ATA HDD (7200rpm)
Hard Disk2:Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 160GB SATA
OS: Windows XP PRo
No one going to take a stab at this one. Please, I need some help here. Any advice would be appreciated
Drive 1 not found Serial ATA , SATA Primary Hard Disk 0 Not Found Help Please Barbarajo99
Howdy and welcome. I've removed your poll, as it was unnecessary.
Hi, I have a Dell XPS 600 running windows XP and have recently run into a problem. Whenever I restart my computer (or when it is automatically restarted after an update) the computer won't reboot and I get the black screen with the message "SATA primary hard drive disk 0 failure" Hitting the F1 key gives the message "no boot device available". If I then hold down the power key on front of the computer to shut it down completely, wait a few minutes and turn the power back on, the computer restarts normally. Also if I am using the computer and shut it down completely (not restart), when I turn it back on, it will startup normally, so I do not think that there is a problem with the hard drive itself, it seems to be a problem recognizing the hard drive after a restart only. No hardware or configuration changes were made to the computer before this problem began. Also an issue that may or may not be related is the fact that more recently startup on this computer has been taking a VERY long time (as in more than 5 minutes). I have tried removing unnecessary programs from them startup tab in msconfig (this was done after the hard drive failure issue, so couldn't be a cause of that) with no change. Interestingly, during the very slow startup, the CPU usage is very low (1-5%). I run Norton Internet Security on this computer and regularly run liveupdate and do full system scans, nothing but the occasional tracking cookie has come up. Any advice would be ap... Read moreMore replies
Hello. Iím trying to help my friend with her Dell Dimension XPS Gen5 running Windows XP.
It had been working fine and no hardware changes were made. Now, upon starting up,
the Dell logo appears but Windows doesn't start.
This message comes up:
SATA primary hard disk drive 0 failure
strike the F1 key to continue, F2 to run the setup utility
If I strike F1 I get the message:
No boot device available. Strike F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup utility
If I strike F2 I successfully enter the setup utility but I donít know what to do there.
I donít know if this info is useful or not:
The service tag of this dell is 1LQ8981
The express service code is 349 062 724 9
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Assume I have a hard disk which supports SATA III (=verified).
I want to put this hard disk into an external hard disk case and connect it by USB v3.0 to my computer.
Later I want to use case and hard disk as backup storage.
Now I doubt that the case supports really SATA III. My guess is that it supports only SATA II.
Ok, I assume the hard disk itself is working with SATA II too.
But I want to use the full speed und feature set of SATA III.
So how can I check the supported SATA versions of the case from Win 7?
You can use which SATA port you need...see here
Hello I have an external hard drive from my old computer that the screen broke so I ordered a SATA adapter and it installed the hardware,shows up in my devices but nowhere else..I went to the disk management and it only shows the hard drive on the laptop I'm connecting it to.Everything says it's working properly but I can't get it to show up anywhere else to open and get the data off the external hard drive.Any help would be greatly appreciated!Thank you! (Here are some screenshots I took if it will help anyone determine the problem)
1.Check the HDD cables,if they're well connected to the device.
2.Test this HDD on another computer
I have installed a Suba SD-SATA150R card with a WD SATA drive. It works, but there is no hard drive light at all. The light worked with the IDE drive I took out.
The card uses a Silicon Image chip. The mobo is ECS N2U400-A.
Is a dark hard drive light normal when using a PCI SATA card?
What is the difference between these three connections? I was looking at SCSI hard drives, and they seem to run faster than the IDE and the SATA hard drives. Well I don't want to put it in those words, but the least amount of RPM for the SCSI hard drives is 10000RPM. Is SCSI better than SATA?
There are some advantages to SATA such as smaller cables for better air flow, hot swapability in some systems, no confusing jumpers. At this time the speed difference between SATA and a new good IDE drive isn't that great. In the future SATA drives are supposed to have transfer rates of 600MBps.
While SCSI drives have at least a theoretical speed advantage as well as other pluses compared to IDE or SATA drives, most of these don't matter to the average user. Your basic motherboard doesn't come with a SCSI connector so that means an add in card.
The mechanical "innards" of all these drives are basically the same.
If your motherboard comes with a SATA connector a SATA drive is about the same price as an IDE drive and probably worth getting. No real reason to get a SCSI drive.
Okay I have a question
I have some SCSI drives. My current system now only has SATA. so is there anyway I can hook them into this? Or is there anyway I can pull some DATA off of the drives? Thanks
Sure, you need to buy a scsi control card with the correct pin config. Note these are not cheap; newegg has some for around $170 and up so you need to decide how much you want the info on the drives.
i have a Dell XPS 14, i7 intel core, 8 gb RAM.
When i installed windows 7, i deleted the partitions of my internal hard drive 465 gb as it is necessary for a clean install of windows 7. i have installed all the drivers that matches my dell service code and the windows updates. But the internal hard disk did not show up. It does show in the "Intel Rapid Storage Technology" software (Screen shot in attachment) but does not show up on "My Computer" or in "Disk Management". I can only see the one drive (Screen shot in attachment).
How can i make windows detect it?
You installed on SSD. Did you clean partitions on internal harddisk when installing windows (not necessary, just a question)? Was internal harddisk working prior to reinstall?
Look in eventlog for relevant errors
my pc has an sata pci card (i dont really know the brand but the chipset is silicon image); it works fine except that it gets stuck when i tried to connect a big hard drive (750G) to it; if a 750G is connected to it, it just blinks before POST and I cant even get into BIOS, it works fine for drives <300G; I just wonder if it's possible to update the firmware of the card or something to make it see larger drives.
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My 1st post. I built my own PC about 10 years ago and have a hit a couple of problems as I've come to replace a couple of things as the tech has obviously moved on.
My PC Mobo is one that has an onboard SCSI controller and when my SCSI system drive started to play up I realised that hard drives had now largely become SATA type. Anyway, I found a SATA RAID controller card which fitted to a standard PCI slot. This is fine and the SATA drive is now my system drive but adding the SATA controller caused a clash with the onboard SCSI controller in that the boot process can't accomodate both controllers as I think the BIOS runs out of ROM. Anyway, instead of the SCSI BIOS showing up at Bootup it now shows the SATA Bios and boots into the OS. Therefore I can't now use the SCSI DVD/CD Rom to boot from, still usuable in Windows but I now want to reinstall my OS.
I have also recently bought a Blue Ray combo drive which is SATA, thinking I could connect it to my SATA RAID controller not realising that this was only for SATA hard drives . I bought the Blue Ray drive for a future HTPC build but thought I could use it in my old system temporarily to do the OS reinstall.
I have seen whilst searching the internet some converters to enable people to use an IDE drive on a SCSI controller but not the other way around and wondered which of a couple of options would be best / possible?
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Hello and welcome to the forums!
I would recommend disabling the onboard SCSI, and purchasing a SATA controller card if you have another slot available. That way, you can connect the Blu-Ray drive to it.
I'm planning on buying an ASUS P6t Deluxe Mobo http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4268650&CatId=4068
and bunch of other good stuff like 1600 mhz ddr3 triple channel ram. Is it okay to purchase 1600mhz whih is the fastest the mobo can support and then overclock it? will it not work because the mobo limit is 1600mhz?
also whats the difference between scsi and sata hdd? I'm thinking about getting a 15k rpm scsi hdd because i dont want my hdd to limit my performance, because i have a spare sata hdd (7200 RPM) hanging around that I can use instead. but since im building a gaming pc wont the sata stump performance? I dont want to invest ina raptor hdd, because SCSI is more cost efficient and much faster with 15k rpm. is this abad idea? should i stick with sata? scsi would my my primary hdd, but i dont mind only using the hdd for games (if thats possible, i can power up both hdd's one with my OS and the other for games?)
does the ASUS mobo above have NCQ? how do i find out?
PLease help before Black friday!!!
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I recently purchased a new Dell 8400 with a 40 GB SATA drive. I want to put my old hard drive (Quantum Fireball) SCSI drive into my new machine so I can use it as a storage device and, most importantly, access its files. I've noted that the new SATA drive has the small data serial cable (4 pin?) that is attached to the motherboard (bay 0). My older SCSI Quantum Fireball has the long (15 pin?) data connection. In order to add the SCSI Fireball as the slave, is there an adapter I can purchase to connect to the 15 pin SCSI Fireball to the 4 pin bay (bay 1) motherboard of my new Dell 8400?
Is any of this possible? I'm sort of a novice and may not have phrased my question correctly.
Sure could use some advice!
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I'm a little confused. In the course of trying to speed up my computer a little bit, I came across something interesting and puzzling. The rig is a Dell Dimension C521 with 2G ram and an AMD 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+ at 2GHz running windows Vista Business.
As you'll see below in the device manager, it tells me that I have a SCSI drive. Yet, when I take the case apart, it sure looks to me like SATA. It's got a SATA cable, etc. Unless they changed the SCSI cable, it has to be SATA. I remember SCSI cables as being fat ribbons from my Mac days (MacPlus, IIsi, PB160, etc.).
Am I going crazy, did I miss something, or is the computer going crazy.
Thanks for your sanity, Sam
find the model number of the drive on the drive unit and google for it. That might tell you if you have a scsi or sata drive.
I just purchased a new ASUS P5AD2-E Premium motherboard and I'm about to connect my hardrives.
I have a new Maxtor Diamondmax 10 160GB SATA 7200 RPM drive and a Quantum U160 SCSI 10k RPM drive.
Which should I go with? I'm assuming the SCSI will be faster, but will it be much faster? Since, using SCSI will take some work off the CPU...is it worth it? will I notice much performance difference?
I would use the sata drive for apps and storage and the scsi for os.
If I didn't have to add a sata adaptor to get sata running, that is.
The scsi will have far less latency than the sata drive, so it should give a snappy response to user input when used as the os drive.
i was looking on ebay to get an idea for prices of a new internal hdd and noticed that there are different kinds. im guessing that these are types of connections. im not sure what ones im using but i think they are IDE(the flat, grey cables?). i was just wondering if someone can point me in the right direction.
my motherboard is a gigabyte RZ series 8S661FXMP-RZ.
are any of these types faster than others? or any benefits or anything?
any help is much appreciated.
Your mobo supports ATA-133 and Serial ATA-150.
In my system Maxtor SATA 200GB with Windows XP SP1 is installed on MSI KT4ultra motherboard.
In the device manager, under Disk properties I have found two options.....(attaching image) please tell me what these mean and by checking will improve my performance or anything.
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Along with my new computer system i'm going to get, I was looking into storage.
I figure I'll get a 120gbSATA 7.2krpm drive for main storage... but also..
a ~18.6gb 15krpm ultra160 scsi drive to have JUST Windows XP (and maybe some other essentials for quick startup) on it. 3.5ms (theoretical) seek seems pretty nice for just an operating system.
Is this really as good as it sounds? Thoughts? I'm sure this has come up in the past.
You may want to go to www.storagereview.com to compare the speeds of the two drives. Those 15000rpm SCSI drives are super-fast, for sure.
Hey guys, big problem. Well, for me it is. I've got a 200GB SATA drive. Connected to a SATA card in a PCI slot. BIOS reads the card, and detects the drive. Great! Load Windows - nothing. Device manager shows the host card under "SCSI and RAID controllers" as working properly, and it even shows the drive too under "Disk Drive" (as a SCSI device). But in "MY COMPUTER" there's no drive! I'm running Windows XP Pro and have all the updates, have updated my BIOS and Firmware on everything, all the latest drivers, yada yada yada. Any ideas?
Have you partitioned and formatted the drive?
im a 22 year old comp.sci student working towards an asc., and in the meantime im doing on-site pc repairs. this one clients pc is giving me such a headache i felt the need to reach out for some feedback.
orginal issue was the threads subject, SATA Primary Hard Disk Drive 0 Failure. f1 to retry f2 to reboot, upon pressing f1 you received "no boot disk found" or something to that effect.
a friend let me borrow a geek-squad MRI bootable CD which i used and uncovered and cleaned numerous malware spyware and viruses. all drive fitness tests passed.
once in a while the same SATA message appears , but upon shutting down and booting back up, they can get to their desktop and operate normally. but only about 6 out of every 10 times they reboot will they be able to operate normally.
thats issue one which im convinced is tied into issue 2.
issue 2 is the following- no internet connection.(just on the desktop)
client uses a timewarner broadband modem connected to a wireless D-Link router. (ill get model specs later today) so heres what i did.
opened device manager (which was empty, i had to enable plug and play w/ services.msc)
saw a conflicting WAN miniport (ATW) drive
uninstalled said conflicting driver
attempted to ping 192.168.0.1 , it started pinging but i would only recieve "destination host unreachable",so im not sure if that was successful or not.
opened network connections, which was empty as well.
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Sounds to me the two are related: Dying motherboard. I had a mobo that started dying with the same issues - NIC went out, then the EIDE went dead, then SATA, and finally, the thing just gave up the ghost.
For the time being, I would remove AOHell and see if you can get a network connection, as it usually digs its hooks into a system so much that nothing works as it normally would by itself, requiring the AOL software to be in top shape to work. When you completely remove the AOL software, reinstall it again straight from a disc, this should fix any problems the software may have caused. Once that's done, try the network again. If still no go, completely remove it again, and try to get network without AOL at all. Repairing Windows may be a good thing to do at this point. If still no go, then go find an add-on NIC card and try it again. If you DO get network with an add-on, then we know the onboard NIC is dead. Note the statement above.
Always keep spare NICs, SATA and IDE add-on cards, and a couple different video cards whenever you are on a customer site, so you can swap out and test things.
The Acer C: drive is now full and the Data D: drive is empty, but it is not recognizing it automatically. This computer is my brother's, he bought it new and has it at my house. It came formatted with no disc's and I'm not sure where his books for it are. Can anyone tell me how to activate the second hard drive so I can use itunes and download video, etc.
It would be very much appreciated. My brother uses the computer here but it has been here for at least 3 years maybe and the book is misplaced. He mostly uses it for youtube, facebook, and stuff like that and is less computer educated than I am at tech stuff, which isn't saying much.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Boot into Bios, usually by hitting F8 as soon as the POST screen appears and see if the hard drives are both recognised. If the spare drive does not show in the Bios it either has a fault or it is not correctly connected.
What OS is on the PC.
HI there, i'm having trouble with a new hard drive i bought, it's a seagate 80gb sata, my motherboard only accepts ide connectors so i bought a controller card with sata ports connected one cable (bought seperately) to the hard drive and another through a convertor to the power. When i start up windows it recognises the raid controller, that in turn recognises the hard drive but it seems to be under a seperate interface, the normal bios does not recognise the hard drive as slave or master or at all for that matter! Have i connected it wrong or is there something i'm missing? Thanks in advance for any help!
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Well I got into a little crunch and wasn't paying much attention and I accidentally bought a "Fujitsu 147GB 10K SCSI HARDDRIVE MAT3147NC U320 80 PIN" thinking for some reason that it was an SATA drive *hits self on head*.
Anyways I'm looking for a very simple and low cost solution to be able to run the SCSI drive in my computer. I've seen all types of converters for 80 pin and such, but I don't really know which one is applicable with the hard drive I got. Are there any SCSI to SATA converters out there? or is there anyway possible to run a SCSI drive from my home computer, without spending too much money? or should I just sell it and just stick with SATA?
Sell it and get a SATA drive would be my move. If you cant return it Ebay it.
One of my systems has twin Maxtor 6Y160M0 SATA disks installed. A physical check of the disks confirms that they are both connected via the SATA connectors.
If I check system info (XP Pro SP2) the disks are listed as: "Maxtor 6Y160M0 SCSI Disk Device".
I am a little confused by this terminology. My understanding was that SATA and SCSI were different technologies, so how is it that XP classifies a SATA disk as a SCSI device..
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Several system information utilities I've run show the SATA devices as SCSI? Any reason?
Here are two screen shots. One is from Speccy and the other is from AS SSD Benchmark.
I wouldn't worry about it Fireberd.
Your devices might incorporate some SCSI technology but that's all.
All of your drives, including optical are either SSD or SATA.
I have an HP desktop computer running WIndows 7. The motherboard has an nVidia chipset. I also have 2 standard SATA hard drives and a SATA SSD drive attached. When I bring up Device Manager, all of the drives are listed as SCSI drives. Anyone know if there are any driver updates that can fix this? I'm not really worried that they are mislabeled, but the SSD is not performing well, even after the typical tweaks. In fact, one of the tweak applications can't identify the drive mode. It should either be IDE or AHCI. In any case, NOT SCSI. My BIOS doesn't have any settings to change IDE/AHCI modes, so I have been told this needs to be done through software.
Maybe the driver for the controller determines what the OS sees.
all my drives list as ATA
The particular HDD is a Samsung HD103SI. This is a SATA drive. It is connected with a SATA cable. My PC doesn't have any SCSI ports.
But Device Manager - Disk Drives lists it as SAMSUNG HD103SI SCSI Disk Device.
It works just fine. Except for one thing, which I don't need at the moment. I cannot make it an un-pluggable AHCI drive because somewhere along the line Windows believes that it is SCSI.
Edit: I have 2 of these drives. If I plug the spare one in (a different SATA port) Windows lists it as SATA.
Some drivers for some hard drive controllers will list SATA drives as SCSI.
All works normally except that the system shows them as SCSI and it may indicate that they are removable.
All my Marvell controllers (with Marvell drivers) list them as SCSI but I can turn off the removable function in the drive properties.
Not sure whether to put this here or programming section seen as its more of a hardware issue. Anyway, I am currently designing some software which will be able to send SCSI defined multimedia commands MMC which are defined by SCSI.
I am going to be using a SATA connected Blu-ray/DVD drive. When MMC commands are sent using IOCTL the drive should return information held on an optical disc.
The question I have is are MMC, well SCSI commands compatible for use with a SATA interface? I am unsure whether the protocols are different or not. I'll be using windows xp.
Ok, since I've been a SATA/IDE guy my whole life, I never really had experience with SCSI and SAS drives. Don't worry, I did do some googling before coming here, but I never got a 'definite' answer. Some say SCSI is better for database applications, while SATA is better for file transfers and streaming.
Here's my question:
Say you have a 10kr pm SCSI drive, a 10k rpm SATA/6Gbits/s drive, and a SAS 10k rpm SAS drive. What would be best? If there's no single answer to this, what would be best for what type of application? (file server, print server, database, etc, etc)
Now that we have that question out of the way, what if we up the SCSI/SAS speeds to 15k rpm? Is there a significant advantage of SATA?
I hope this all makes sense!
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Is SCSI or SATA a better (more stable) for hard drives going to be on a dedicated PC Audio System?
I have been building a dedicated PC Audio System for the last few months. Unfortunately i've stumbled on a few system spec requirements in order to allow my ProTools (Audio Software & Hardware Rack Input/Output.
1) First, I should have done better homework. But, all the parts are brand spankin' new.
2) Can someone please advise me if SATA or SCSI formats would be most stable? Would be fastest?
3) Is there anyway to 'cripple' 4 of my 8 gig of memory temporarily? Without going too deep into my compatibility with my ProTools System; I am forced to use standard wXP (non 64 bit).
4) My ProTools is not compatible with a Dual Core 2 CPU that I bought. Does anyone know what would happen if I ran with this CPU? I understand most of you will not know this. I am simply hoping someone in this thread may have performed some of their older software. I would like to make use of my new CPU, however, stability is first and foremost.
If you can only answer one question above, that's very helpful. However, if someone knows all the answers to the above, it would be most excellent.
Could you tell me the speeds also?
SCSI is a bit ahead, Ultra-320 at 320 MB/s vs SATA 3.0 at 300 MB/s
SATA 6.0 will be 600 MB/s. and Ultra-640 SCSI 640MB/s.
Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) and SAS2 are 375MB/s and 750 MB/s
Keep in mind this is the Interface speed; the actual transfer rate to the platter is much slower (around 100-125 MB/s last time I checked), and is fairly similar between the different interfaces.
Check out Computer Buses (Storage) at this link:
List of device Bandwidths
Another useful table is here:
Ill try and keep this straight and to the point but at this point myself, intel, and dell are baffled. I have a Dell XPS730 with the Nvidia Nforce 790i chipset. I run two 500 gig SATA drives under RAID 0. I recently installed an Intel X25 80 gig SSD and have ran into problems. Windows recognizes the drive as SCSI in device manager. Granted it works however because it is listed as SCSI TRIM and the intel toolbox wont work which makes an SSD useless.
After tons of research I have found that because of the Nvidia chipset it makes the drive show up as SCSI. I have tried Vista and Windows 7, both show it as SCSI. I have moved the SATA cable away from the other main 4 that support RAID with no luck. I have refomatted several times as well with no luck. I have completely disabled RAID in the bios and it STILL shows as SCSI. Is there any way to get around this? I have read that changing the nvidia controller drivers may work but im not sure what I would switch them to? I am totally lost and any info would be MUCH appreciated!
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I've been reading about issues with people having problems with their SSD's not being reconized by Windows 7 Ultimate...but my WD 600gig STAT III Raptor is listed as a SCSI as well. I assume the problem is with my Marvell Driver.
I bought this 60gig OCZ Vertex 3 SATA III drive for a Boot drive and had a pain installing drivers for it on a clean install of windows. I plugged it, and my WD Raptor both into the 2 SATA III ports that I have on my ASUS Rampage III MB. I set the Drives to ACHI not IDE. Tried to install Windows, had to force windows to accept the Marvell Drivers...but finally got it installed.
Now Im stuck with the OCZ SSD and the Raptor both at SCSI speeds...not able to get them reconized my Windows 7 Ult as SATA drives.
Should I try uninstalling the Marvell and JBMicron drivers and let Windows try and install drivers that will work? Funny thing is, I know that windows is reconizing the SSD as a SSD because of the Disk Defrag has been disabled on it...and was able to get some info off the drive via Intels SSD toolbox....OCZ's tool box wont reconize it unless you use Windows drivers. I had to install the Marvell Drivers to install Windows, Windows wouldn't reconize either drive plugged into the SATA III ports.
Anyway, if anyone could help out I would greatly appreciate it. I've tried bout everything, even tried the reg. fix via the Windows Helper with no luck.
Thanks in advance.
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I have a problem with Sony PMB software not recocnizing my DVD RW. Sony says its because my computer see's my drive as a scsi. It is a Sony DVD RW that is hooked up with a SATA cable to mobo. The box that the DVD RW drive came in shows it as a SATA. Do i need to do something in the BIOS to correct this. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Just installed Windows 7 RTM and my Sata HDD's and DVDRW are reporting as SCSI devices. I would get this problem in XP if I installed the mobo's raid drivers by accident. If I did then the devices would report as SCSI and the dvd burner would report as a cdrom and would not burn or read dvds
Whereas in Windows 7 the burner is reporting as a DVDRW scsi CDrom and will play dvd's and burn them too.
So at the moment there doesn't seem to be any problem however whilst navigating through the control panel I noticed the WEI. So I took a look and it's report my primary hard drive with a score of 5.9. The hard drive is a brand new Western Digital Caviar Black 500gb 32mb cache disk, is this score normal for such a drive?
Also is there anything else to worry about with the devices reporting as SCSI or is okay to leave it like that
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Windows XP device manager:
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The only way to get a better score on your HDD would be to have either :
1) A 10,000 RPM drive, or for maximum scores,
2) A fast SSD (I have an Intel X-25M and get 7.7 as a score)
Ok, so my maxtor drive was working fine all untill i took out the pci ata card out and the drive to install on my new pc.
Now whenever i try to install it there or on this pc it tells me it has found new hardware like this: promise sata console scsi processor device
I can't find any place where i can dl this driver on any cds including the maxtor one. So how can i get this thing working?
Dont mind sig specs, those are not correct!
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Have a W540 with the Samsung MZ7TE512HMHP-0001L SATA Solid State drive. Noticed after one of the updates from either MS or Lenovo, the driver changed to a SCSI driver, and the performance has slowed. It now shows a 6.3 on the windows experience, vs the 7.6 it did before. I haven't seen a SCSI drive in years and doubt that is what is rockin in this workstation. Things I have tried:1. Update driver (says I have the correct driver)2. Run Lenovo Support utilites Suggestions welcome
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I have a Dell Dimension 8300 with a WD 200G SATA drive and I'm trying to format and install a fresh copy of Windows XP Pro SP2. I have made an image of the partition C: with Norton Ghost 8.0 before I went on with the formatting.
Problem: After the installation of Win XP, it is extremely slow. As I scroll through the screen (especially when using IE), I could see the screen try to refresh from the bottom to top).
I've installed the Intel Chipset Utility and the Display driver (nVidia 66.93) but it's no help. Before as I was installing Windows, I performed the F6 procedure and installed the Promise SATA Controller from Dell for my Dimension 8300.
http://support.dell.com/support/dow...D=DIM_PNT_P4_8300&os=WW1&osl=en&deviceid=4096 but it still not working.
After that, I followed the instruction from the Dell's website and tried to manually update the SATA Controller in Windows by going to Device Manager --> SCSI and RAID controller, except there was NO SCSI and RAID controller listed in there!
So I decided to load the original C: partition from the Ghost image to see what's there for the SCSI and RAID controller, it's merely using the A347SCSI SCSI Controller from Microsoft and it does not have the slowdown problem at all.
There must be something that I've missed when installing Windows. Why wouldn't it see the SCSI and RAID controller in Device Manager? I've tried to reinstalled Windows a few... Read more
Have you asked dell abt this?